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Jewish Prophecies and Israel’s Elections   I normally don’t pay attention to Jewish prophecies because they are looking for a different messiah from Christians, rather than Jesus who was and is their real Messiah.  However, there was a well-known Jewish Kabbalist (mystic), Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri [c. 1898(?) – Jan 28, 2006] who made a seemingly impossible prediction about end times that actually came true during the Israeli elections of 2019/2020.  Plus, there are indications or rumors that Rabbi Kaduri knew that Jesus is the true Messiah, although he kept it a secret until his death.    Anyway, Moses once wrote that the best way to tell if a message is from God or not is to wait and see if it comes true. (Deut 18:22)  Kaduri’s prophecy, along with another that he referenced in his book, from Rabbi Sasson Hai Shoshani, definitely came true, so they must have been from God.  There is a third prophecy that is vaguer, from Rabbi Jose ben Kisma, that could be related to the other two, but I will start with Kaduri.    According to Rabbi Eliyahu Merav, he was watching Kaduri take questions, 40-years ago, when someone asked him when the Moshiach (Messiah) would arrive and whether there were signs.  Kaduri answered, ‘When there will be elections but there will not be a government’ Rabbi Meray never forgot that statement because it seemed impossible, but 40-years later, Israel’s unprecedented need for 3 elections in one year fulfilled Kaduri’s prophecy.  Plus, as you can see below, it happened in the year he predicted, 5780.  The full prophecy was recently found in the Kabbalistic school of Nahalat Yitzhak.  Kaduri wrote: "On the eve of the year 5780, the year of corrections [Sept-2019 to Sept-2020], there will not be a government in Israel for an extended period and the various camps will quarrel much without a decision on either side, and then, on Rosh Hashanah [the Jewish new year] itself, they will fight in heaven, the holy side against the side of evil, and G-d and His entourage will decide between them."    In the same book, Kaduri referenced another Kabbalist, Rabbi Shoshani, who prophesied: "There will come on the day that two ministers win the government in the land of Israel. Both their names will be Benjamin and neither of them will succeed in establishing their government or kingship.  On that day, know and understand that the King Messiah already stands at the doorway and on the Sabbath afterwards he will come and be revealed.  Understand this and remember it."    The prophecies came true because Israel indeed didn’t have a government for a long time.  They kept extending the interim government while they went through an unprecedented three back-to-back elections.  Like I said, it happened in the exact year that Kaduri predicted.  Plus, the two candidates who kept failing to form a government were both named Benjamin: Netanyahu and Gantz.  Since neither could succeed, they finally formed a unity government where Netanyahu would serve as PM for 18-months and Gantz would serve for 18-months.  However, one could argue that that government never fully formed because they failed to agree on a budget, which is the first thing a new government must pass.  Thus, the new parliament was dissolved and new elections held March 23, 2021, which was the 4th election in about two years.  4th Election and Another Prophecy   There’s also a 3rd Kabbalistic prophecy, from Rabbi Kisma, which may be related to the other two, but it’s vaguer and there’s no real evidence that it’s being fulfilled.    When asked about the coming messiah, Kisma answered, “When this gate falls down, is rebuilt, falls again, and is again rebuilt, and then falls a third time, before it can be rebuilt the son of David will come.” (Sanhedrin Tractate 98a)    I’ve heard that some people believe the ‘gate falling’ represents the ‘government falling’ and the election process is the rebuilding.  I’m always willing to give the benefit of the doubt until all the data can be collected.  The problem I have is with the counting because the original government fell and then they had three elections before the unity government of Netanyhau and Gantz was agreed upon.  Of course, that unity government fell, because they couldn’t pass a budget, but was that just the 2nd fall?  Now, a new unity government has formed between Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid.  Does that new government have to fall to be considered the third fall?  I don’t know, but since I think we will be waiting until Spring-2022 (see section #1), I think it might.   In my opinion, the other two prophecies, from Kaduri and Shoshani, have proven to be true, which show that we are very close to Jesus’ return.  The jury is still out on Kisma’s prophecy, but I think we will find out in the coming year.  Updated:  7-04-2021  Illustration of three Kabbalist prophecies click to enlarge Illustration of the three Kabbalist prophecies
Daniel 11 Explained  Condensed “one page” Commentary (verse by verse) related pages: The Seals  The 70th Seven The Abomination #3: Saying ‘peace and safety’ when destruction comes         Here’s an important prophecy from Paul that is truer today than ever before.  1 Thess 5:1-6 Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.  4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.   That passage is truer today than ever before because Israel has signed several “normalization agreements” with Arab countries, which some are calling ‘peace’ agreements.  First came UAE and Bahrain, followed by Sudan and Morocco, all very recently.  Of course, it is only making the Palestinians more upset because the Arabs were supposed to stick together and not accept Israel until they reached an agreement with the Palestinians, based on pre-1967 lines.    The agreements are understandable because they are firmly linking Israel with the ‘South’, in Daniel 11, since Iran is current leader of the North (starting in Daniel 11:21), with Saudi Arabia leading the South.  It’s understandable because, after the rapture, near the middle of tribulation, Israel will be invaded at the same time the South is defeated. (Daniel 11:40-43 [see my newest page for details on post-rapture events and timing]   The sudden destruction that Paul’s prophecy is referring to is due to the events of the rapture.  Those events will start with the uprising in Daniel 11:31 that sets up the abomination that causes desolation.  Of course, that uprising doesn’t have to be a full-scale war, such as the one in Daniel 11:40-43, but could be a 3rd intifada by the Palestinians, which many have called for already.  The Palestinians are allies with Iran and the North, so a 3rd intifada would fit the uprising perfectly.  When the abomination is set up, the rapture will happen, which will cause further destruction because that is the 6th Seal.  The 6th Seal contains a great earthquake, which will likely produce a giant tsunami, which is described in Luke 21:25 and Amos 8:8   Thus, the destruction in Paul’s prophecy is not all from the armed forces who rise up but that is the surprise event that starts the ball rolling that leads to the 6th Seal.  I included verses 4 & 5 to illustrate that, although Jesus comes like a ‘thief in the night’, Christians who are watching the correct signs will not be surprised like those in darkness.  I say ‘correct signs’ because post-tribs manipulate Revelation by overlapping the Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls, which cause people to watch for the wrong signs, most notably the antichrist and mark of the beast, which actually come after the rapture.  [see newest page for post-rapture events and timing] - Chart showing the offset between 70th Seven and 2300-day Tribulation click to enlarge Comparison of Timelines: 70th Seven to 2300-days Full moons in the Bible   The reason I think the rapture will happen ‘near’ a full moon (14th to 17th of a lunar month) is that almost all the biggest events in the Bible happened near full moons, some both starting and stopping on full moons, so it’s just reasonable to think that.  For the record, a full moon occurs on the 14th or 15th of a lunar month because the lunar month averages 29.5 days and starts on a ‘new’ moon (dark).    The Biblical Flood started on the 17th of the 2nd month (Gen 7:11), and the ark landed on Mt. Ararat on the 17th of the 7th month (Gen 8:4), so it started and stopped near a full moon.    God defined the original Passover as being on the 15th of the first month (Exodus 12:6), so the Biblical Exodus started on the full moon.  The Israelites reached Mt. Sinai on the 15th of the 4th month (Exodus 19:1) and God came down on the third day (Exodus 19:16), which was 17th of Tammuz, with fire and thunder.  Joshua received instructions to march around Jericho, and the Israelites began marching on the 15th of the 1st month (Josh 5:10), which began their conquest of the Promised Land.  So, the Exodus both started and stopped on full moons, not to mention God appeared on Mt. Sinai near the full moon.    Purim is also near a full moon because the war that it commemorates was on the 14th  and 15th of Adar, or 12th month. (Esther 9:21)  God also defined the Feast of Tabernacles  as starting on a full moon because it starts on the 15th of the 7th month. (Lev 23:34)    Jesus was crucified the day after Passover, which was on the 15th of the 1st month and raised on the third day, which was the 17th of the 1st month, very similar to Mt. Sinai.  Since the resurrection was the 1st Seal, and the rapture is the 6th Seal (with the 7th Seal happening shortly thereafter), then the Seals too have a chance of starting and stoping near full moons, like the Flood and Exodus.    Consequently, since the 2300-days is almost exactly 78-lunar months (within one day), then that period could also start and stop near full moons (if the abomination and 6th Seal happen near a full moon).  In other words, if the rapture happens near a full moon, then not only would the Seals start and stop on full moons, but the post-rapture ‘tribulation’ (Trumpets and Bowls), which lasts 2300-days, would also start and stop near full moons.    Granted, the rapture could happen ‘any day’ because it’s meant to be a surprise, but given the past occurrences and future possibilities, I think the odds are very high that it will happen near a full moon (14th to 17th of a lunar month).  After all, the sun and moon are like hands to God’s clock (Gen 1:14), and He has demonstrated that He likes to stay on time.   Rapture Soon #1. Introduction   Spring-2021 has come and gone, and Jesus obviously didn’t return yet.  I’m extremely disappointed, but life must go on.  I still think the rapture will be soon, but unfortunately, since Spring-2021 has passed, I think we could be waiting for Spring-2022.  I hope I’m wrong and Jesus comes sooner than that, but given the clues in the Bible, that’s the best guess I can make at the moment.  I hate to project so far in the future because I don’t want people to relax and lower their guard.  I want to encourage people to stay ready at all time because Jesus could come when we least expect it.  However, I’m giving my opinion because the Bible gives clues, and there’s a special table for those who are ‘watching when He comes’. (Luke 12:37   When it comes to watching, Christians seem to be divided into two camps.  On one hand, many people are against trying to set a timeframe of any kind.  Their favorite verse is: “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt 24:36)  However, that verse is in ‘present tense’, which means Jesus didn’t know, then, but that doesn’t mean He doesn’t know, now.  Plus, it doesn’t matter because the clues in the Bible are from the Father, who has known all along.  Another point people make is that Jesus will come like a ‘thief in the night’, which is meant to encourage people to be ready at all time, but Paul says that Christians ‘should not be surprised like a thief’, like those who are in darkness. (1 Thess 5:4-5   Like I said, Christians are divided into two camps because some constantly crave some kind of date to look forward to, knowing that it may or may not happen.  When one date passes, they look for another.  There’s really nothing wrong with that.  On the contrary, it shows an eagerness for Jesus’ return, which I think God likes to see.  That’s why there’s a special table for those who are ‘watching when He comes’.  Naturally, there will be some misses, until the bullseye is hit.  People understand that there’s no guarantee, but they still like to have a date to look forward to.  In that regard, I wish I could predict something closer than Spring-2022, but the good news is that there’s a greater chance for next Spring than there was for the last.  Let me explain.  Why do I think the rapture will be soon?    I think it’s best to explain my reasoning from the beginning, but to make a long story short, Jesus indicated that the abomination from the Book of Daniel would be the last sign before the rapture (Matt 24:15), so that’s what Christians should look for.  Of course, the 6th Seal rapture will happen almost immediately when the abomination is set up, or at least within 30-minutes, since the 7th Seal is a half-hour of silence before the Trumpet plagues can begin. (Rev 8)  Thus, a person cannot wait until they actually see the abomination, before getting saved, because there won’t be time.  Besides, no one really knows what the abomination will be.  Jesus instructs those in Judea to flee to the mountains, when the abomination is set up, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will recognize what the abomination is.  I mean, I think they will be fleeing to higher ground, regardless, due to the giant tsunami that the 6th Seal earthquake will generate.  [For reference, the tsunami is mentioned in Amos 8:8 (“land tremble … rise like the Nile”) and Luke 21:25 (“roaring and tossing of the sea”).]  Therefore, people will be fleeing for the mountains whether they recognize the abomination or not.  My point is: if it’s not feasible to watch for the actual abomination, from the Book of Daniel, then the only thing a person can do is watch for the signs leading to the abomination.    The Book of Daniel mentions the abomination four times, in Daniel 8, 9, 11, and 12.  However, two of those, Daniel 8 and 12, refer to times or events after the rapture, during the tribulation.  Daniel 11 contains the most complete list of events, both before, during, and after the rapture, which is why the angel Gabriel called it God’s Book of Truth. (Dan 10:21)  My original quest, which God called me to do, was to unseal Daniel 11, since the NIV notes were obviously incorrect.  It took many years, but God finally revealed the missing pieces, which ultimately led to this website.  When I first started my quest, we were only on verse 22, but now, all the verses through Daniel 11:30 have been fulfilled.  That means the uprising and abomination, in Daniel 11:31, along with the rapture, are next.  However, that information alone doesn’t give a clear indication of the timing because there can be a small gap between verses, especially when the Parable of the Ten Virgins says, “The Bridegroom was a long time in coming.” (Matt 25:5)  The only mention of the abomination in the Book of Daniel that gives any sense of timing before the rapture is in Daniel 9:27, since the abomination will be set up in the ‘middle’ (NIV) or ‘midst’ (KJV) of the 70th Seven.  To be clear, it was never my intention to set any kind of date for the rapture, but if a person studies the abomination from the Book of Daniel, as Jesus said to do, then the 70th Seven from Daniel 9 cannot be ignored.  Daniel 9:27 (NIV) “He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven'  he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”   The key piece of the puzzle is the ‘confirmation of a covenant with many’ because that is what starts the 70th Seven, during which the abomination occurs.  Like I said, the NIV says ‘middle’, and the KJV says ‘midst’, but I think they are both accurate because I think of the middle like that of a jelly doughnut, where the jelly is not in one exact spot, but throughout the middle.  In other words, a movie has a beginning, an end, and everything else is in the middle.  That being said, I’m almost positive that the ‘covenant with many’ was Iran’s nuclear deal with the P5+1 (US, UK, France, Russia, China, and Germany), which was literally ‘many’.  Some people have said that the verse refers to Israel, but that’s not true because the same entity that makes the covenant (agreement or promise) also sets up the abomination, and God’s wrath (end that is decreed) is “poured out on him.”  I have always thought the verse was talking about Iran because they are the current ‘king of the north’, starting in Daniel 11:21, which starts the final empire.  Thus, I always kept a watchful eye on any kind of agreements Iran might be making, but when they actually signed the JCPOA with the P5+1, which was huge and historical, I knew that was the ‘covenant with many’.  That only leaves the ‘confirmation’, which is the event that actually starts the 70th Seven.    There were two events that could have fulfilled the ‘confirmation’.  First, the official signing, which included a UN resolution, confirmed the interim agreement.  Then, Implementation Day, which was stipulated in the resolution, when Iran showed compliance and the first sanctions were lifted, confirmed the signing.  The official signing was July 14, 2015, and Implementation Day was January 16, 2016, so that would make the 70th Seven extend through Jan. 16, 2023 That’s why I said Spring-2022 was a stronger possibility than Spring-2021, since it will be the last Spring in the 70th Seven range.    Of course, I could be wrong about the 70th Seven, but I don’t think so because the Iran nuclear agreement was not only huge, during its signing, but it has stood the test of time, remained in the news, and continues to be one of Israel’s primary sources of concern.  A couple of people have asked me if a ‘new’ signing, by the Biden administration, could be the confirmation.  Technically, I guess so, but I don’t think the designated confirmation would come almost 7-years after the original signing.  At least, I hope not because that would start the clock all over again.  Besides, a new signing would not exactly be with the ‘many’ because only the US broke the agreement (and later Iran).  The other five countries in the P5+1 have tried their best to stay in the agreement, even as Iran violated it to gain leverage.  Anyway, I have my doubts that a new signing will even occur because neither side wants to be the first to come back into compliance.  Unless that happens, I will stick to my original idea for the 70th Seven, which extends to January-2023, making Spring-2022 my best bet for Jesus’ return.  Why Spring?   Belief in Spring comes from other clues about times and events, during the tribulation, as mentioned in Daniel or Revelation.  Most notably, Daniel 8:13-14 indicates that there will be 2300-days between the “rebellion that causes desolation,” which is just a combination of the ‘uprising and abomination’ (both in Daniel 11:31), and the ‘reconsecration of the sanctuary’.  In other words, the 2300-days is the total time for the post-rapture tribulation, consisting of the Trumpet and Bowl plagues, of which Armageddon is the 7th Bowl.  The only feast that is specifically mentioned as being celebrated during Jesus’ 1000-year reign on earth is the Feast of Tabernacles.  In fact, it’s extremely important because all those who fail to worship Jesus during the Feast of Tabernacles will get no rain and develop painful sores. (Zech 14:16-19 Naturally, Jesus will ‘reconsecrate the sanctuary’ after He defeats the armies of the beast, during Armageddon, but before the Feast of Tabernacles.  Since the Feast of Tabernacles is in the Fall, 2300-days before would land the abomination and rapture in the Spring.  More specifically, 2300-days before the Feast of Tabernacles, Oct 5th, 2028, lands on June 19th, 2022.  Of course, the abomination and rapture could be before that date because that would just put the ‘reconsecration of the sanctuary’ before the Feast of Tabernacles.  However, if the abomination and rapture was after that date, then the ‘reconsecration’ would land after the Feast of Tabernacles, which doesn’t make any sense.    Like I said, before that date is fine because there are Biblical examples of that.  I mean, the 2nd Temple was finished on the 3rd of Adar (Ezra 6:15), which was about 40-days before they celebrated Passover.  They also finished the wall around Jerusalem, on the 25th of Elul (Nehemiah 6:15), which was about 19-days before the Feast of Tabernacles.  So, on average, a big event occurred about one month before a big celebration.  However, that doesn’t really indicate when the sanctuary was reconsecrated, after the event or just before the celebration.  Anyway, like I said, it was never my intention to pinpoint an exact day; I’m just using God’s clues to get an approximate idea, which seems to be May or June, probably near a full moon.    I say ‘full moon’ because I don’t think the fact that 2300-days is almost exactly 78-lunar months (within one day) is just a coincidence that God stumbled upon by accident.  The next section illustrates how God has used full moons (within 1-2 days) in almost every major event in the Bible.  In fact, many periods have both started and stopped near full moons, which would be the case if the abomination and rapture happens near a full moon.  Of course, the Feast of Tabernacles is already defined as starting on a full moon because it starts on the 15th of the 7th month.  Therefore, it is my personal belief that the rapture will occur near a full moon (within 1-2 days) because God has followed that pattern in the past. [see next section]   The last factor I will mention is that June is gay-pride month, which could account for the following prophecy, when Jesus said, “For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.” (Matthew 24:38-40)  I’ve said for years that the “marrying and giving in marriage” was symbolic of gay marriage because everything in Noah’s time was “only evil all the time.” (Genesis 6:5)  Since there’s nothing evil about normal marriage, it makes sense that Jesus’ prophecy is about gay marriage.  Therefore, the most likely time for that type of celebrating is in the month of June.  I’ve also pointed out that the 6th Seal earthquake will produce a tsunami, which will appear like a flood, especially on the coast of Israel, where Tel Aviv prides itself on being one of the gay-friendliest cities on earth.  In fact, the Tel Aviv ‘pride-parade’ is normally on the 2nd Friday in June, just “days before” the full moon on June 13/14, 2022 Closing   Once again, I’m just trying to follow the Biblical clues and get some idea of when the rapture might be, but naturally, I can’t guarantee anything.  I just feel obligated to report what I find, just like Ezekiel was obligated to warn the people, so their blood wouldn’t be on his hands. (Ezekiel 3:17-19)  I report when the chances for Jesus’ return seem higher than usual, based on Biblical clues, especially the abomination.  Of course, those chances haven’t materialized, yet, but just because they haven’t in the past doesn’t mean they won’t in the future.  I mean, I continue to follow Jesus’ advice and focus on the abomination from the Book of Daniel.  Next Spring will be the last Spring in what I believe to be the 70th Seven.  I didn’t think it would happen so close to the end of the 70th Seven, but if the Bridegroom was so long in coming that all ten virgins fell asleep (Matt 25:5), then perhaps it makes sense.  Of course, I hope it happens sooner, but in my opinion, the full moons in the Spring: April 15/16, May 15/16, and June 13/14, especially June, have the greatest chance for Jesus’ return.   In my defense of the past, at least I give my reasoning, from the Bible, so people can decide for themselves.  I mean, some people, in the past, have picked a date and gave no reasoning to support it.  Others have used astronomy or numerology, but that’s not the abomination from the Book of Daniel, as Jesus instructed.  Many people have become skeptical and think no one will ever figure it out, since so many have been wrong.  However, someone must figure it out, eventually, at the proverbial ‘last minute’, because the Parable of the Ten Virgins says that ‘the cry rang out at midnight’ that the Bridegroom was coming. (Matt 25:6)  Yet, Jesus didn’t arrive at that exact moment.  On the contrary, the foolish virgins still had time to wake up, attempt to negotiate with the wise virgins, and then leave to buy some oil.  Only then did the Bridegroom arrive and the foolish virgins were left behind. (Matt 25:10)  There are many elements of that parable that could be discussed, but my point here is: The one who cried out at midnight knew (at least a small time in advance) and was right.  I can’t guarantee that’s me, but at least I’m focusing on the abomination, from the Book of Daniel, just as Jesus said to do.  [Parable of the Ten Virgins -complete text] Proof that the 6th Seal Rapture (pre-trib) happens immediately after the Abomination is set up   The uprising and abomination is when the 6th Seal rapture will occur.  That can be proven because the signs in the sun, moon, and stars, during the ‘rapture’ or ‘gathering in the sky’ (Matt 24:29-31) perfectly match the same unique signs during the 6th Seal. (Rev 6:12-13)  Then, ‘the great multitude from every nation’ (Christians) arrive in heaven in Rev 7:9, following the 6th Seal.  That is ‘pre-trib’ because Seals 1-5 are in the past.  The post-rapture ‘tribulation’ (Trumpets and Bowls) literally can’t start until the 7th Seal is done (Rev 8), which is after the Christians are already in heaven (between the 6th and 7th Seals).    The reason I know the rapture, Matt 24:29-31, coincides with the abomination, Matt 24:15, is that there are two different groups in Matt 24:15-31.  They match the same two groups in Rev 7, the 144,000 Israelites who are sealed by God but remain on earth, and the multitude from every nation (Christians) who arrive immediately in heaven.  There must be two groups in Matt 24:15-31 because Jesus’ account of end times in Matthew 24 must match Revelation.    There’s additional verification because all sorts of people are hiding in the mountains, during the 6th Seal (Rev 6:15-17), who see the Lamb (Jesus) in the sky and mourn.  That matches the fact that Jesus tells Judea to flee to the mountains when they see the abomination. (Matt 24:16-21)    Post-tribs insist that there is one group in Matthew 24, so they overlap the Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls, in Revelation, attempting to put the 6th Seal rapture at the end.  In doing so, they re-arrange God’s prophecy in Revelation, putting the antichrist and mark of the beast (Rev 13) before the 6th Seal rapture (Rev 6), which is obviously wrong.  That is a dangerous deception because it could cause people to procrastinate before accepting Jesus, making them think they can wait until after they see the mark of the beast, which tragically will be too late.  In reality, Seals 1-5 were during the last 2000-years, which Rev 7:14 calls the ‘great tribulation’ (past tense), but that is different from the ‘post-rapture tribulation’ (Trumpets and Bowls).  Therefore, post-tribs can’t overlap everything with the Seals, since Seals 1-5 are in the past, but overlapping is wrong anyway because it inevitably omits certain things, which is forbidden by God. (Rev 22:19)  Post-tribs are essentially false prophets because they re-arrange and change God’s prophecy, so don’t listen to them. 
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